I am sure I am missing the joke. What is all this about Andre that I hear so much. As far as I can go, it seems that the WT used a fictitious chracter and passed it as real to the rank and file. Any link that may help me partake of the joke?
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4/1/2013 public WT, "A man named Andre' was very close to his father, who suddenly fell ill and died"
by Theocratic Sedition ini looked for a thread on this before posting, did i miss it?
andre is in the main article of the april public edition wt.
they gotta be having fun with this in the writing department!
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How Many Here Have Ever Smoked Pot or Tobacco?
by minimus inam i the only one who has done neither?.
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I didn't inhale and I never tried it again. I swear. And yes, I did have sexual relation with that woman... right after.
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"Literary Heritage"? Is this new Watchtower newspeak??
by never a jw ini decided to send a rather flippant e-mail to an elder who gave me a bible study in the late 90's.
he's a zealot among zealots.
he inhales and exhales wt 24/7.
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I decided to send a rather flippant e-mail to an elder who gave me a bible study in the late 90's. He's a zealot among zealots. He inhales and exhales WT 24/7. Here's my email and his response. English is not our first language, but I am glad he responded in English because you can read it too. Please bear with some confusing writing. I have highlighted the interesting stuff of his response.
My email Dear Elder, I am preparing for the Watchtower study one week in advance and I read in Page 8 (Feb. 15, 2013): "Do you appreciate our spiritual heritage?" To the left of the question/title appear three persons holding very old magazines. Mr. Elder, do you appreciate those magazines? Have you ever read them? I don't think Jehovah's Witnesses appreciate their spiritual heritage. Almost all of them know near nothing about their history. They can only remember the latest study. I am very confident that I know more about their history than anyone in my wife's congregation including all elders, or your own congregation, including yourself. Don't you think it is time to show appreciation for your spiritual heritage? I can help you. I have most of the literature (books, magazines tracts) going back to 1879. Just bring me your laptop and you can have them all. Never a JW His response Hi Never a JW I'll give some answer: While I commend your interest in the history of our organization, it is an interest in our literary heritage that you attack. You don't understand what the spiritual heritage is because that is manifested in the qualities and personalities af the individuals who partake in such heritage. I also appreciate your desire to share your extensive library, I assure you however that I too could acquire such literature from the internet or eBay, amazon or international bookstores. Yes change has happened and those with the spiritual heritage have been thankful for the further understanding ad first century Christians were about their understanding of the Christ.. Jehova's witnesses understand their heritage and take pride in it, and this is why they dedicate time in the field preaching. They will not get into debate with teorist whose "finding" are at best deficient and unproductive. So is it Witnesses know almost nothing of their history? Your ability to understand does not exist at this moment because you are on the defensive. Have you really dedicated time and effort to "uncover" truths about a group you elevate yourself over?What is really the reason for your actions? Do you care so much for my well being that you wish that I see the "truth"? What is the desire. I'll be attentive to your response. Elder
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Do you appreciate our spiritual heritage?
by never a jw inthat is the title of the second study of the feb. 15, 2013 magazine (page 8).
to the left of the title a picture appears showing three people holding very old watchtower magazines from the early 1900's.
i have been studying jw's history and doctrines for less than a year and i already have far more knowledge than most c.o.
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Thanks Yknot,
I was unaware of the 2009 admission of responsibility by the WT regarding 1975. Can you provide more details, the magazine, date, page?
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Do you appreciate our spiritual heritage?
by never a jw inthat is the title of the second study of the feb. 15, 2013 magazine (page 8).
to the left of the title a picture appears showing three people holding very old watchtower magazines from the early 1900's.
i have been studying jw's history and doctrines for less than a year and i already have far more knowledge than most c.o.
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That is the title of the second study of the Feb. 15, 2013 magazine (page 8). To the left of the title a picture appears showing three people holding very old Watchtower magazines from the early 1900's
I have been studying JW's history and doctrines for less than a year and I already have far more knowledge than most C.O.'s or even D.O.'s. Is it because I know too much?, or is it because JW's know too little? I have brothers who are JW's and have been in the truth for over 20 years. The farthest back their knowledge of their history can go is 1975, and they actually believe the explanation given by the WT (it was the fault of the rank-and-file)
I just wonder if the picture of the three persons holding old magazines is a way to encourage JW's to read their own history through those old magazines. Sometimes I wonder if these articles are written by people who have awakened and are subtly trying to undermine the WT? I suspect that this year is going to be even more interesting than last year.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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Agree with Hortensia.
The name has room for improvement.
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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
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Cedars,
Include me there. One problem I see with the antiwatchtower movement in general is that the message is in English and that it is neglecting to bring the message to other languages, especially Spanish which may be the first language of possibly millions of JW's . I don't have much extra time, but I can put my tiny effort to produce/translate the message to Spanish. You can count on my support in every possible way I can do it.
Call me Winston Smith (recently I feel that way when I am surrounded by all my JW family member and friends) It's becoming a nightmarish experience.
Feel free to PM me. I can exchange email addresses with you guys. I live in California and own a small copying business. Use my niche if you find it useful
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There are really TWO Watchtower Societies
by Terry inwith cedars release of leaked watchtower new light "adjusting" understanding of "who" the faithful and discreet slave is.....i am struck by something which similarly struck me back in 1967.in 1967 i had just been imprisoned.
being a male jehovah's witness during the viet nam war meant certain "issues" arose affecting a decision to respond to the military draft.i have told the story before.
but, i'd like go at it from another angle in view of the above mentioned new light about the fds fora different reason.it was first in 1967 i began to discover that there are two watchtower societies.let me explain why i say this and for what reasons.first of all, anybody standing in a kingdom hall or sitting in a seat at a vast international assembly saw people they would identify as all on the same page.
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Nickolas,
I get what you are saying. It's easy for me to avoid looking at the big picture about life because I learned about the "secrets" of the WT leadership only few months ago. Even as a non-JW, learning what I know about the WT angers me, and digging more about them absorbs so much of my time, but I realized, that I have to move on. I selfishly want the Terry's, the Leolaoia's and the Farkel's to stay a little longer to feed me everything about the WT, but I realized that they also should move on.
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Alameda County Administrator makes $423,664 a year!
by VM44 inalameda county administrator's premium pay end hearst/article/premium_article_tools_480.tpl end premium_story_header.tpl article/types/premium_story.tpl hearst/common/author_name.tpl by matier & ross.
e hearst/common/author_name.tpl article_timestamp.tpl march 25, 2013. alameda county supervisors have really taken to heart the adage that government should run like a business, rewarding county administrator susan muranishi with the wall street-like wage of $423,664 a year.. for the rest of her life.. according to county pay records, in addition to her $301,000 base salary, muranishi receives:-- $24,000, plus change, in "equity pay" to guarantee that she makes at least 10 percent more than anyone else in the county.. -- about $54,000 a year in "longevity" pay for having stayed with the county for more than 30 years.. -- an annual performance bonus of $24,000.. -- and an additional $9,000 a year for serving on the county's three-member surplus property authority, an ad hoc committee of the board of supervisors that oversees the sale of excess land.. like other county executives, muranishi also gets an $8,292-a-year car allowance.. muranishi has been with the county for 38 years, and she's 63. when retirement day comes, she'll be getting a lot more than a gold watch.. that's because, according to the county auditor's office, muranishi's annual pension will be equal to the dollar total of her entire yearly package - $413,000.
she also has a separate executive private pension plan, for which the county chips in $46,500 a year.. "and she's worth every dime," said supervisor scott haggerty, who was on the board when it promoted muranishi to county administrator in 1995, voted for her and joined in approving her base pay and perks.. "we're lucky to have her," haggerty said.. he likens the job of running the county administration to being ceo of a $2.4 billion corporation, with 9,000 employees.. granted, the $2.4 billion is taxpayer money, and the county isn't set up to turn a profit.
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Good point Rub a Dub.
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There are really TWO Watchtower Societies
by Terry inwith cedars release of leaked watchtower new light "adjusting" understanding of "who" the faithful and discreet slave is.....i am struck by something which similarly struck me back in 1967.in 1967 i had just been imprisoned.
being a male jehovah's witness during the viet nam war meant certain "issues" arose affecting a decision to respond to the military draft.i have told the story before.
but, i'd like go at it from another angle in view of the above mentioned new light about the fds fora different reason.it was first in 1967 i began to discover that there are two watchtower societies.let me explain why i say this and for what reasons.first of all, anybody standing in a kingdom hall or sitting in a seat at a vast international assembly saw people they would identify as all on the same page.
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Nickolas, Terry may have made a factual statement regarding the WT leaders. I have never been hurt by the WT since I have never been a JW, and yet I agree with Terry's description of the WT. It seems that you are inferring more than what the statement describes.